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Trump and his s**t hole comment

It was reported that, during a meeting, Trump called certain countries S**T Holes. He says that he didn’t say that. It wasn’t recorded and wasn’t on the record as far as we currently know. This is just someone who was in the meeting reporting that this comment was said. Trump wanted to know why we are so intent on importing people from these countries. If he did say that, he might be undiplomatic, but his query is one I’ve often asked myself. Why are people so intent on importing people into the United States? What’s in it for us?

The linked story also makes a good point when it quotes an un-named source. Normally I would ignore un-cited quotes but in this case who said it doesn’t matter as the point itself stands regardless, “President Donald Trump is absolutely right. Africa is a continent of shit,” says Mamady Traore, a 30-year-old sociologist in the West African nation of Guinea.

“When you have heads of state who mess with the constitutions to perpetuate their power. When you have rebel factions that kill children, disembowel women as saints, who mutilate innocent civilians. Frankly, it must be said that it’s crap.”

Don Lemon called the president a racist because of this comment. But if we really try to quantify what is meant by the term s**t hole I think we can safely apply it to some countries, some towns, some neighborhoods. It’s not a nice term, to be sure, and I wouldn’t use it, but it does serve to succinctly convey to the listener just what kind of place we’re talking about. The people who live there probably feel the same way.

Crap hole

Look at the picture, can you really say that’s a nice place? No, that doesn’t make the people bad people and I certainly can think of reasons I would want those people here instead of there. But they are emotional reasons, reasons of caring, and not practical reasons. We have a right to ask why we’re doing something and it’s not racist. That’s an excuse to keep from having to answer the actual question. Why? For me, certainly I find enough justification to say we’re saving them from a crap hole. Doing so we save a few. That’s wonderful for those few. But we can’t take them all. It’s only by fixing what is causing the poverty that the people will really be helped. Most often we have found that it is a lack of freedom that causes it, rather than a lack of resources. Poor countries aren’t actually, normally, poor. They have resources that can sustain a population. People don’t have the ability to obtain those resources though because the government is preventing it via policy. Think of China’s former one child policy. It was mean to keep the population low so scarce resources didn’t have to stretch so far. What it did was prevent people from birthing new workers. A farmer needs hands to help him. If those hands are his children, he just pays them room and board. They sustain his farm. That’s not a reality we face much in the United States. But it is a reality much of the world has to deal with. The family is the primary unit of any nation. The family is more important than the nation. In many African countries the poverty is due to some warlord killing, raping, stealing, and preventing his rivals from prospering lest they rise up and take his place.

I’m pro-immigration in that the emotional side (and perhaps the white knight side) wants to gather in the sick and afflicted and give them succor. We can do that in America, we are prosperous and safe. But we can’t do it for everyone.

All the poor deserve compassion. I don’t care why they are poor, compassion costs me nothing. But beyond compassion we have to have the very real and honest discussion about why that compassion should motivate the use of tax payer money and societal change. We need a better reason than Donald Trump is a jerk, and we need to be nice. Because objectively we aren’t helping poverty, we’re just helping some of the poor. Based on what we’ve seen in other countries that allow large numbers of immigrants their own countries suffer culturally and economically.

If we are going to spend tax payer money helping others then I would rather it be that our government send scientists and educators abroad to help teach others and to send diplomats abroad to broker peace in war torn countries without us bringing troops and greater war.

I’m not saying I have all the answers to this complex problem, I’m saying I have some questions.

 

 

“President Donald Trump is absolutely right. Africa is a continent of shit,” says Mamady Traore, a 30-year-old sociologist in the West African nation of Guinea. “When you have heads of state who mess with the constitutions to perpetuate their power. When you have rebel factions that kill children, disembowel women as saints, who mutilate innocent civilians. Frankly, it must be said that it’s crap.”

Source: The Latest: Senior EU lawmaker says Trump not fit for office

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